tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post112849118031645766..comments2023-10-10T10:09:48.794-05:00Comments on Letting me be . . . random wondering and philosophy: A Lesson in Frail Gray"ME" Liz Strausshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10711283307459944821noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128602756838902512005-10-06T07:45:00.000-05:002005-10-06T07:45:00.000-05:00Janus,Thank you. You can be sure I look out for cr...Janus,<BR/>Thank you. You can be sure I look out for crayons of that color now. <BR/><BR/>It must have been amazing to see someone change that way. It give hope to hear for you to tell about it.. <BR/><BR/>smiles,<BR/>Liz"ME" Liz Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711283307459944821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128602605557910762005-10-06T07:43:00.000-05:002005-10-06T07:43:00.000-05:00Until recently I worked with a person that was the...Until recently I worked with a person that was the victim type, he didn't get fired but he changed after he found out that everyone else around him had plenty to complain about but still were able to function.<BR/>First time I ever saw someone snap out of it, most people I know that are victims enjoy being martyrs- but when it starts affecting others, thats when it becomes my problem.<BR/>Very good reading Liz, and sorry you have to deal with that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128545783715650792005-10-05T15:56:00.000-05:002005-10-05T15:56:00.000-05:00Hey Glittermuse,I know that some can wean their ch...Hey Glittermuse,<BR/>I know that some can wean their children later with good results, but not all use that as an excuse to get their own way on things.<BR/><BR/>What a great description of how to deal with a Frail Gray. I think I know who to go to when I face a problem like this again. <BR/><BR/>smiles,<BR/>Liz"ME" Liz Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711283307459944821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128545378130671512005-10-05T15:49:00.000-05:002005-10-05T15:49:00.000-05:00Hi Cheryl,I think this Frail Gray made up her vict...Hi Cheryl,<BR/>I think this Frail Gray made up her victimness for her own benefit. But you're right about how others contribute to such things. I'm sure you'll find the book in the UK. It's very famous.<BR/>Liz"ME" Liz Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711283307459944821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128540115305363502005-10-05T14:21:00.000-05:002005-10-05T14:21:00.000-05:00I'm good friends with someone who believed in long...I'm good friends with someone who believed in long term nursing, and her son weaned himself, though late, age 6. She's a single mother with a single child. He's 9 now and is more secure and comfortable and precocious than most. (Though he still manipulates her too much, but we're working on that too.)<BR/><BR/>The victim users often have complex patterns underlieing their behavior. I think most can be cured with lots of attention and tough love. But it's more time than most have, so they continue their sad tornado of suffering, sucking in anyone who gets too close.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128521261726874122005-10-05T09:07:00.000-05:002005-10-05T09:07:00.000-05:00Frail grey can't exist without a worrying white an...Frail grey can't exist without a worrying white and a bullying black. The helper and the harmer who both say 'yes you are a victim'.<BR/>Its so true that all three can be either fooled or fooler.<BR/>Lovely analogy - I will have to go and see if they sell the Tree book in the UK, now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128512743106379312005-10-05T06:45:00.000-05:002005-10-05T06:45:00.000-05:00Ned,I knew I could count on you to see what I was ...Ned,<BR/>I knew I could count on you to see what I was also seeing. The problem was that my VP was also a female and the "nurturing" type so I didn't have much room to move. I actually thought it was bordering on child abuse.<BR/><BR/>smiles,<BR/>Liz"ME" Liz Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711283307459944821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128511630005352142005-10-05T06:27:00.000-05:002005-10-05T06:27:00.000-05:00Hello Mark,Yes and thank you. After all withou our...Hello Mark,<BR/>Yes and thank you. After all withou our discussion at you site I would not have thought about talking about this idea here.<BR/><BR/>smiles,<BR/>Liz"ME" Liz Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711283307459944821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128503109189131132005-10-05T04:05:00.000-05:002005-10-05T04:05:00.000-05:00Ah, the feeble people.. those weak and undeserving...Ah, the feeble people.. those weak and undeserving victims of just about everything. They never live up to obligations, everything is someone else's fault. It takes a while to overcome your compassion and see them for what they really are and it does shave a bit off your formerly intact conscience but you gotta do it, gotta shake em loose.<BR/><BR/>The four year old thing though? I would definitely have said something, that is just too freaky and someone should have informed child services. Even Dr. Spock would have been aghast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128495430965209042005-10-05T01:57:00.000-05:002005-10-05T01:57:00.000-05:00Great job...isn't it wonderful how great minds run...Great job...isn't it wonderful how great minds run on the same tracks?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128492651071084762005-10-05T01:10:00.000-05:002005-10-05T01:10:00.000-05:00Hey Mojo,You made me laugh out loud. I hadn't even...Hey Mojo,<BR/>You made me laugh out loud. I hadn't even pinged the story yet and there you were. It's not exactly a coming of age book--it's only 32 pages I think. <BR/><BR/>But there's not a worry that you're Frail Gray.<BR/><BR/>smiles,<BR/>Liz"ME" Liz Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711283307459944821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14775685.post-1128492449829492172005-10-05T01:07:00.000-05:002005-10-05T01:07:00.000-05:00Wow, never read the book since my tastes skipped r...Wow, never read the book since my tastes skipped right to young adult/coming-of-age stuff, but now I definitely don't want to be lumped into the Frail Gray class.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.com