I agree with Garnet. So much depends on perspective and our understanding of the self. I like the Buddhist idea of the 'Self' that is before your parents were born, or as Ken Wilber puts it; 'the Self you were before the Big Bang', or 'your original face' before the world of form and time and space. That self, the 'I Am' self, the 'Witness', is whole and complete and ultimately is who you really are. Now if I can only figure out how to say all that in 25 words or less! Okay, I'll give it a shot. Here goes....
I am that which is The sun rises, the bird sings Who is not enlightened?
So you are saying that we start whole long before we are. But I don't hear you saying we stay that way or necessarily are that way now. I don't know many who feel whole.
Your contribution to the discussion has made it go deeper. It has also made it more beautiful. Thank you.
Yes. You are correct. Most don't feel whole. We live in a world of dualism. A dichotomy between the 'Oneness' we are and the fragmented self we perceive and become. Obviously, it's a complex psycho-spiritual-cultural-social issue that defies simple explanations in the short space we have here. Let me just leave you with a clue that may (or may not) be helpful. "Remember (re-member) who you really are and be that" from "Conversations With God" by Neale Donald Walsch. Thank you for your kind words. Your writing is a great blessing to me.
25 Words or Less
I might really make a mess,
ReplyDeletePerhaps it is too much stress,
Might cause me great duress,
To rhyme in twenty five words or less.
Great Eric,
ReplyDeleteGood work, but you should know.
This is rhyme.
It does not have to be a poem.
It's an observation in 25 words or less.
smiles,
Liz
Whole souls are a rare treasure aren't they?
ReplyDeleteHi Easy,
ReplyDeleteThat tells me you must know one.
Yes a whole soul is a rare find.
smiles,
Liz
Yes, I do. :o)
ReplyDeleteHi Easy,
ReplyDeleteI could tell.
Thanks, So Lost!
ReplyDeletearen't we all whole but just haven't realized it? (do you know "Hedwig and the Angry Inch"?)
ReplyDeleteHello Garnet2
ReplyDeleteAre you Garnet too?
I'm going to have to think about that. I think I believe so of use have to work our way there.
Liz
I agree with Garnet. So much depends on perspective and our understanding of the self. I like the Buddhist idea of the 'Self' that is before your parents were born, or as Ken Wilber puts it; 'the Self you were before the Big Bang', or 'your original face' before the world of form and time and space. That self, the 'I Am' self, the 'Witness', is whole and complete and ultimately is who you really are.
ReplyDeleteNow if I can only figure out how to say all that in 25 words or less!
Okay, I'll give it a shot. Here goes....
I am that which is
The sun rises, the bird sings
Who is not enlightened?
HI Ron, welcome,
ReplyDeleteSo you are saying that we start whole long before we are. But I don't hear you saying we stay that way or necessarily are that way now. I don't know many who feel whole.
Your contribution to the discussion has made it go deeper. It has also made it more beautiful. Thank you.
Liz
Yes. You are correct. Most don't feel whole. We live in a world of dualism. A dichotomy between the 'Oneness' we are and the fragmented self we perceive and become. Obviously, it's a complex psycho-spiritual-cultural-social issue that defies simple explanations in the short space we have here. Let me just leave you with a clue that may (or may not) be helpful. "Remember (re-member) who you really are and be that" from "Conversations With God" by Neale Donald Walsch.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your kind words. Your writing is a great blessing to me.
Ron,
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing your wisdom with all of us. It helps to know what you bring. I with think about the clues you leave.
Liz